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Posted 30 January 2006 - 01:01 PM

I'm not going to tell anyone what to think of this guy, but, if you're like me and you get the feeling he's really bad news for America, I'd encourage you to act on those convictions right now.

You've heard the pundits repeat it ad nauseum: "A supreme court justice can do 30 years worth of damage". The truth is, we don't know anything about Alito. The democrats are staging a filibuster to force a debate. A debate, I feel, is necessary.

I'd like to hear what he thinks about the domestic spying scandal, and whether or not he believes, as Bush does, that the president is above the law. I'd like to hear a lot about what this man thinks.

Remember, Alito was nominated as a result of an uprising on the part of the extreme right wing of the Republican party over the nomination of Harriet Miers, who weren't properly assured that she would do their bidding. With the very real potential that Alito will swing the court hard right, don't you think the American people deserve to hear exactly where this guy stands?

Senator Frist called this guy "The Democrats' worst nightmare." So, he's half the country's "worst nightmare"? What the fuck? Doesn't sound like a moderate to me.

Want a mograph connection? Alito likes to shit on the employee and bail out the employer when it comes to any given flavor of employment litigation. Translation: you may just find it harder to get a fair shake in the workplace real soon.

Nuff said. I'll pay my penances for starting a political topic later. Right now, someone needs to see to it that the democrats locate their spines and stand for their convictions for once. Feel like chippin' in? All you need to do is place a couple of calls. All you need to know is here:

http://www.dailykos....1/28/1420/46748

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 02:46 PM

Hey, thanks for reminding me. I just placed calls to Senators Conrad and Dorgan voicing my support for our President's nominee. Face it, we're gonna go thru this nonsense with you lefties until he nominates an ACLU lawyer to the SupCo. We can't let that happen...

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 03:07 PM

Gentlemen start your engines!

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 04:08 PM

I just don’t get the rightists I mean I can if you're making over 6 figures cus then it makes sense you're in a higher tax bracket & for some reason you deserve to be taxed less?? Anyway lets say for arguments sake that the 6 figure and up bracket of the right wing of this country constitutes maybe 15% of that faction. Are the rest of you just brainless?? I'm talking to the farmers, construction workers middle American blue collar people who basically made all this possible by their severe lack of intelligence. & Clint what’s wrong with the ACLU? Is it a bad thing to uphold the founding principles of this country? Or should we just grab the declaration of independence & constitution & recycle them so GW dicknose can use them as toilet paper....oh wait he already did that.

I'm sorry I'm not the most intelligent person on the face of the planet but I do consider myself to have somewhat of a brain & I just can't figure the reasoning behind the right. That is, the people who are backing the extreme right of this country's government. I think that California & New York should implement their own manifest destiny to educate the rest of the country.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 04:28 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 05:18 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 05:31 PM

Blue state secession NOW!!!!!!

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 05:49 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:21 PM

Hey, I'm just trying to hang onto what I hold dear in our great nation. For instance, all 50 state preambles attest their gratefulness to God. Our country was founded on Christian principles. But activists such as the ACLU want to erase that from public view. Ever read the second half of the first sentence first amendment, where it doesn't allow the government to prohibit the free exercise of religion? That one gets often overlooked. In any case, I don't want judges that legislate law, or decide that my property is no longer mine...and those are liberally minded judges, by the way. From my perspective, I lose far more liberty under liberalism than conservatism.

And then there's the whole class envy argument. I have the unenviable position of making just the right amount of money so that I'm "the poor" when the left tries to define the poverty level and blame poverty on the right. Then I'm "the rich" when the left tries to define who deserves tax cuts and who does not. So don't give me that tired rhetoric.

In any case, I've got the right to my opinions and access to the legislative process that the rest of you do. And I plan to take full advantage of it. And try as you will to define liberalism as the "status quo" that must not be upset, I am not buying it. Now let's let the process play out.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:54 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 06:58 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:11 PM

I think if you read his case history on Wikipedia, you'll see that he's not an "extreme right wing" nominee. He might be conservative, but he's no Pat Robertson.

http://en.wikipedia....r.#Case_history

Aside from that, in the court, it's not really about conservatism vs. liberalism etc etc. It's about how the constitution is interpreted, and there's some good information if you care to read about it here:

http://www.usconstit...sttop_intr.html

Not arguing one way or the other here, just saying, be informed before you rant.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:27 PM

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IRAQ - ADULT GENOCIDE

Yo Fred, my sister's friend bled to death after attempting to end an early pregnancy
with a coathanger. Age 13.
My sister was lucky to be able to afford flying to NY when she accidentally got
knocked up at 17. The alternative would've been dropping out of school and getting a
job at KMart to raise the unwanted kid.
She now has 3 kids that came when she was happily married and ready to have them.
This happy family wouldn't exist if you folks had had your way.

Easy to sit back and know all the answers for other people's lives, isn't it?

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:31 PM

IRAQ - ADULT GENOCIDE

Yo Fred, my sister's friend bled to death after attempting to end an early pregnancy
with a coathanger.  Age 13. 
My sister was lucky to be able to afford flying to NY when she accidentally got
knocked up at 17.  The alternative would've been dropping out of school and getting a
job at KMart to raise the unwanted kid.
She now has 3 kids that came when she was happily married and ready to have them.
This happy family wouldn't exist if you folks had had your way.

Easy to sit back and know all the answers for other people's lives, isn't it?

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I think fred was being sarcastic... :(

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:32 PM

IRAQ - ADULT GENOCIDE

Yo Fred, my sister's friend bled to death after attempting to end an early pregnancy
with a coathanger.  Age 13. 
My sister was lucky to be able to afford flying to NY when she accidentally got
knocked up at 17.  The alternative would've been dropping out of school and getting a
job at KMart to raise the unwanted kid.
She now has 3 kids that came when she was happily married and ready to have them.
This happy family wouldn't exist if you folks had had your way.

Easy to sit back and know all the answers for other people's lives, isn't it?

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:32 PM

I think fred was being sarcastic...  :(

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i waaas i waaaaas. well it wasn't even that deep. i was just being internet.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 07:37 PM

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - - that's all.'


Law may just be interpretation, but it is in the interpretation of laws that their meaning becomes apparent. If you attend a court you will rarely hear extended reference to primary legislation, instead the attorneys will rely on case law, settled interpretation of a legislation. And courts in countries all over the world have often found a meaning in the words of legislation that runs quite contrary to the avowed intention of a legislature. The divide is there in principle, but it's not a neat cut between interpretting and legislating.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 08:03 PM

Law may just be interpretation, but it is in the interpretation of laws that their meaning becomes apparent. If you attend a court you will rarely hear extended reference to primary legislation, instead the attorneys will rely on case law, settled interpretation of a legislation.

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Which is exactly why decisions like roe v wade will never be overturned. For one, it's already established, and two, it would be so unpopular that the right could kiss their majority goodbye for a few decades, and you know the right doesn't want to do that. But for the sake of ripping the righties a new one, I think the left likes to speculate with B.S. like "Alito poses a direct threat to women's health and safety," and "Roe hangs by a thread on the Supreme Court." That's even more ridiculous than Farrakhan saying that Bush blew up the levies on purpose.

Ok, I don't know how I get sucked into these friggin political threads... I'm really trying to cut down.

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 08:22 PM

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Posted 30 January 2006 - 08:26 PM

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Won't someone PLEASE think of the children?!?!?!




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