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Looks like Justin disabled the comments section. Probably a good thing if you've read some of the recent comment threads (like the LAMBO one), although I think I'll miss what other people think of the work that gets posted there.

 

What do yo guys think?

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Looks like Justin disabled the comments section. Probably a good thing if you've read some of the recent comment threads (like the LAMBO one), although I think I'll miss what other people think of the work that gets posted there.

 

What do yo guys think?

 

yeah, mixed emotions about this. In a way its a good thing. I saw some conversations get out of hand. The anonymity of it made it really easy to be rude and abrasive.

 

I guess that's what mograph.net is for, in regards to discussing motion graphics. Plus, here we know who's actually saying what to some degree and we can easily flag IP's and the whole bit.

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Yeah, I followed the panda panther thread and the lambo one and it's probably for the best. the comments definitely got out of hand. no idea why people use the comments there to just rip on other people for no reason.

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Ugh. The whole problem with "Web 2.0" is that all it takes is a few jackasses/pr0n/spammers and the whole thing doesn't work. Idiocracy.

 

I personally am going to miss the comments section. When Simon Robson told everyone that he was flattered by the imitation of "What barry says" and didn't mind it that so many people were making "reduxes" in the comments seciton of motionographer, I thought it was really classy and really cool that the world is so small and word got back to the creator who commented.

 

C

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im glad he did away with those. id read some of the comments where viewers started giving critiques of the peices, like the creator was asking for input (esp on that heebok lee one). i think too many people were thinking it was mograph.

 

it definately did serve as a rude awakening as to how small and jaded this industry can make people.

 

and everytime that 'tha_don' asswipe posted i found myself questioning why the comments section even existed.

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Ugh. The whole problem with "Web 2.0" is that all it takes is a few jackasses/pr0n/spammers and the whole thing doesn't work. Idiocracy.

 

I personally am going to miss the comments section. When Simon Robson told everyone that he was flattered by the imitation of "What barry says" and didn't mind it that so many people were making "reduxes" in the comments seciton of motionographer, I thought it was really classy and really cool that the world is so small and word got back to the creator who commented.

 

C

 

True dat. The potential for meaningful dialog with the creators and designers of exceptional works was there, but it sounds like it degenerated into a bunch of smacktalk. Bummer to have that resource cut off.

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People talking shit about other people within the tiny, inconsequential niche that is motion graphics - that's pretty much the Mograph mission statement. (although I agree that it got out of hand at Motionographer)

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Justin(as well as most of the contributors) was getting pretty frustrated with the quality of the discussion lately. Several people commented regularly that really just brought the whole thing down. Tha_Don being the main culprit. I've never seen more asinine comments made then what that douche bag had. It was just bring down the quality of what motionographer is.

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It's a shame cause I did enjoy reading some of the constructive comments out there.

...I think there might be other solutions out there as opposed to just taking the comments down.

 

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never really read them, so won't miss them. if i want to read childish insults and immature banter, i'll just come here. :)

Ditto.

 

Love the content there, but never really got into the comments.

It is such a chore to leave comments open on a site. A few years ago I hosted a political blog that had to be shut down just because it was getting 1 million (no exaggeration... I have logs to prove it) spam hits a night with poker and viagra ads. The public just isn't ready for the internet. Sometimes I wish it was like the old days when all the twinks stayed on AOL.

 

Thank god the standards are so low around here that it's difficult to be disappointed. ;)

 

-m

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Reading all this is good for me. I have mixed emotions about nixing the comments, too. But they've been bugging me for a while. They very, very rarely add quality to the site; more frequently they detracted from the overall mission of Motionographer.

 

I dunno. Maybe I'm being too self-important about Motionographer. It's still growing, still figuring out who/what it is. Maybe this is just a phase. Maybe not.

 

At any rate, I appreciate this thoughtful discussion. Thanks, guys.

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You could just make people sign up for an account and then ban people who were trouble makers or delete comments that were flame bait. It feels weird when a blog doesn't have comments to post. So Motionographer now feels more like a mograph news site than a blog.

 

Still, the content is always the most important thing, not the inane ramblings of the unwashed masses. Luckily that is staying.

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Reading all this is good for me. I have mixed emotions about nixing the comments, too. But they've been bugging me for a while. They very, very rarely add quality to the site; more frequently they detracted from the overall mission of Motionographer.

 

I dunno. Maybe I'm being too self-important about Motionographer. It's still growing, still figuring out who/what it is. Maybe this is just a phase. Maybe not.

 

At any rate, I appreciate this thoughtful discussion. Thanks, guys.

 

I loved it every time a Simon Robson would comment and add something truly relevant .. but it seemed much more likely you'd get either fanboys or haters replying and adding nothing whatsoever.

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You could just make people sign up for an account and then ban people who were trouble makers or delete comments that were flame bait.

I tried that for a while, but two problems arose:

1) It didn't keep out the idiots. They just re-registered, changed IPs, used disposable email accounts, etc.

2) It required way too much moderation on my part.

 

As for becoming more of a news site and less of a blog, you're totally right. Maybe that's a good thing, though. Like I said, Motionographer is still figuring out what it wants to be when it grows up. :)

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I wasn't criticising, just observing. Maybe it is better that it is a news site, although i think it's also good having that personal feeling a blog has. News sites can get so sterile and one thing I like about Motionographer is that it is anything but.

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I like reading the comments on motionographer, it is a shame that they became so crass. To me the content was and is far more important so Motionographer still keeps it's place on my bookmarks bar, comments or not.

 

Thanks Justin for a great resource.

 

cheers

Tim

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