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Look at that hole at bottom right. What goes there, some little niche animation program?

 

Anyone who wanted to be a real detective would set up a bunch of difference layers on that master series rainbow and see which color is left over, and that'll be the color of the missing app. Wait, I can see it now--it's the pink at the bottom right of the master package, not represented in any of the packages shown. Pink! Pink, for us! Pink for all things good, and free!

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Look at that hole at bottom right. What goes there, some little niche animation program?

 

Anyone who wanted to be a real detective would set up a bunch of difference layers on that master series rainbow and see which color is left over, and that'll be the color of the missing app. Wait, I can see it now--it's the pink at the bottom right of the master package, not represented in any of the packages shown. Pink! Pink, for us! Pink for all things good, and free!

 

*lol* Perhaps http://kuler.adobe.com will reveal the truth?

 

Mylenium

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With this packaging Adobe has succeeded in not only disguising the purpose of each software title, but also in making them virtually indistinguishable from one another. I can't wait to have a half dozen little liquidy blowing fabric icons in my dock to commit to memory...

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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen.

Who the h*ck is gonna pay full price for FIREWORKS as a standalone program.

They should just bundle it with Dreamweaver.

Isn't Fireworks like the extra packets of ketchup they throw in your bag at McDonalds??

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"3D compositions from Vanishing Point

Export Vanishing Point data from Photoshop Extended, and then import into After Effects to automatically build a 3D composition from the 2D Photoshop image."

 

That sounds pretty sick.

 

joey

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"3D compositions from Vanishing Point

Export Vanishing Point data from Photoshop Extended, and then import into After Effects to automatically build a 3D composition from the 2D Photoshop image."

 

oh man, i have a feeling we're gonna see this all over the place next year... "look! i can make this photo of the side of my grandma's house seem like it grows into the sky for forever, and it only 82% looks like it's tiled! i dunno what that has to do with car insurance, but i'm definitely putting it in this regional car insurance spot i'm working on!"

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man, theres some cool new features in illustrator, indesign, pshop & ae. looks like they've integrated kuler into illustrator! (live color). the painting movie tools in pshop looks really exciting. cool... can't wait....

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First time I have even felt vaguely excited about a software release since photoshop got layers. (OK the C4D mograph module was fun). If (and a big if) it all works like it is meant to, there is some genuinely useful-looking ground-breaking stuff there. And Mac users will have a decent deal on getting the whole bundle (with Flash and Premiere included) for a change. The upgrade qualifications are almost laughable - I could even dig out my box of Premiere 4 which cost me £10 at a charity shop to qualify - so almost no-one will need to pay the full price. This is pretty aggressive positioning, which suggests Adobe is getting seriously worried about what Apple has up it's sleeve. I would never have guessed a year ago that I would ever be using Premiere again, but viewed as an "editing plugin" for After Effects it looks quite attractive for the sort of editing work needed for short form pieces.

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Photoshop CS3 Extended looks interesting ...

 

"With Photoshop CS3 Extended, film, video and multimedia professionals, and graphic and web designers can leverage the power of the Photoshop image-editing toolset and paint engine when editing 3D and motion-based content. Film and video specialists can perform 3-D model visualization and texture editing, paint and clone over multiple video frames. Animators can now render and incorporate rich 3-D content into their 2-D compositions. Graphic and web designers can create an animation from a series of images - such as time series data - and export it to a wide variety of formats, including QuickTime, MPEG-4 and Adobe Flash® Video."

 

But this thread is supposed to be about AE CS3. ;)

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This is pretty aggressive positioning, which suggests Adobe is getting seriously worried about what Apple has up it's sleeve.

 

Nope, I don't think so. You cannot be afraid of something that you don't have the slightest clue about and it doesn't do you any good to think too much about your competitors if it distracts you from doing your own business successfully. Adobe could develop a product to counter Apples supposedly coming "Über-App" and it could be a complete failure because Adobe's clone would not attract anyone just like said "Über-App" might turn out as a complete failure. You also have to figure in that big companies think much more long-term. Adobe might not be afraid at all of what Apple does in 2008, but they might fear Autodesk in 2010, if you get my meaning. From where I sit, Adobe is just picking a good time and opportunity to swing back to Mac in full.

 

a) For the first time ever since OSX was incepted, the underlying driver architecture that affects sound, video, OpenGL and whatnot is halfway stable and usable with 10.4, solving many issues that existed before.

 

B) Due to the processor change, all developers (even Apple themselves) have to/ had to adapt, meaning that they all have their share of problems to work out. Since Adobe weren't among the first ones, they can build on some experiences from others in terms of which traps to avoid. This could potentially help them to get it halfway right from the start.

 

c) OSX 10.4 for the first time really deserves the title of a 64 bit OS without additional layers of abstraction and emulation for non-native 32 bit apps, further facilitating development.

 

d) If you wanna figure in the competitors, they al lare in a phase of transition. Neither Apple themselves nor Avid nor Autodesk really have something exciting and fresh to offer for Mac. People are willing to jump hoops to get the best out of AE using Rosetta on intel Macs just to use it most efficiently, so why hasn't Apple successfully taken over with Motion? Did that price drop for Shake have any discernible impact on the AE userbase? I doubt that and as long as nobody has something really good, the new kid on the block has always a good chance of getting some attraction.

 

e) As unbelievable as this may sound, there are enough users that are unsatisfied with Apple's tools and development policy. As to what the individual reasons may be is anyone's guess, but they exist. Those users will gladly latch on to anything that they perceive as a potential solution to their dilemma. They are certainly worth the effort on Adobe's part.

 

f) People have to work with the tools that are available now and make a living of it. If someone thinks Premiere is okay for his needs (and he uses AE anyways), it won't be hard for him to decide for Adobe tools

 

I could go on about this for quite a bit longer, but I think I want to say with all this: The scope of the entire thing is much bigger than some Adobe rep sitting shuddering in a dark corner and biting his fingernails in fear of what Apple does. It may look like a sudden move, but it certainly has a long term plan behind it.

 

Mylenium

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if the new illustrator is faster than cs2, with those new features will be a great release, photoshop looks cool too.

 

very strange, there is almost no Sao's post in an adobe thread, he is on holidays???

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