graphic_display 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Id like to hear an vicious debate about which program is better. i know this is a vague question - i am hoping to hear a variety of arguments. in addition what do people think about the future of 3D apps. will apple buy maxon to combine with motion and shake? let the speculation fly! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sao_Bento Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Id like to hear an vicious debate about which program is better. i know this is a vague question - i am hoping to hear a variety of arguments. in addition what do people think about the future of 3D apps. will apple buy maxon to combine with motion and shake? let the speculation fly! This is the kind of thing we generally try to discourage here, because it goes nowhere. CGTalk is all ready filled to the tip top with arguments about what the best 3D app is. Asking this kind of stuff is akin to asking people which religion is best. For most of the people who reply to it, it is a religion (as they tend to be hobbyists). For the working professionals, there is no easy answer. In the professional realm, the best tool is the one that is best for what you're trying to accomplish. Both the apps you are talking about have free demos and both have online galleries and user communities that show what they're capable of - download the trial versions and find out which one you like. The legendary "Rust Boy" seems to exist solely to show that the 3D app you use has little to do with making good stuff - http://rustboy.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graphic_display 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 This is the kind of thing we generally try to discourage here, because it goes nowhere. CGTalk is all ready filled to the tip top with arguments about what the best 3D app is. Asking this kind of stuff is akin to asking people which religion is best. For most of the people who reply to it, it is a religion (as they tend to be hobbyists). For the working professionals, there is no easy answer. In the professional realm, the best tool is the one that is best for what you're trying to accomplish. Both the apps you are talking about have free demos and both have online galleries and user communities that show what they're capable of - download the trial versions and find out which one you like. The legendary "Rust Boy" seems to exist solely to show that the 3D app you use has little to do with making good stuff - http://rustboy.com/ alrighty then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rubbersquirrel 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 illustrator > effect > 3d > extrude & bevel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dBelanich 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 It's all about who is using the program more then which program it is. They can all achieve the same end result more or less you know. and once you know all the shortcuts in one you don't bother using another one. I'm a 3D Max slut myself so I pick that over all others! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jporter313 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 After many years worrying about this same question, the comclusion I've come to is that the best 3D app is the one you best know how to use. They are all very powerfull, they all have their own strengths and weaknesses, and really, you can get great results with any of the major 3D apps providing you know how to tame it. That being said, I happen to be a longtime Maya user. I really like the open-ended nature of Maya. For some reason, nodes and construction history just speak to me. I like that I can see what's happening under the surface to some extent, and I feel like I've gotten to the point where I've started to think in Maya when it comes to projects. On the other hand, Maya doesn't give you much help in the motion graphics area, importing an image onto a plane, for example, is a multi-step process (although you could write a MEL script to automate this, I suppose). I feel like this is one area where C4D has Maya beat. they have a set of tools targeted directly toward creating Motion Graphics, and I often find myself looking on C4D with envy for this reason. Really what it comes down to though is, use whatever you feel the most comfortable using. Try them both out, see what you think, and pick a path. You'll be fine either way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Smith 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Id like to hear an vicious debate about which program is better. Ugh. Just go HERE and it will explain all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destro 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Is a Kenworth truck or a Porsche better? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monovich 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Is a Kenworth truck or a Porsche better? I like Porsche Trucks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rothermel 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 I like Porsche Trucks. figures. just look at where you live. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rothermel 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Ugh. Just go HERE and it will explain all. pwnd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
graphic_display 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 (edited) On the other hand, Maya doesn't give you much help in the motion graphics area, importing an image onto a plane, for example, is a multi-step process (although you could write a MEL script to automate this, I suppose). I feel like this is one area where C4D has Maya beat. they have a set of tools targeted directly toward creating Motion Graphics, and I often find myself looking on C4D with envy for this reason. word. Edited December 18, 2007 by graphic_display Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Monkey 8 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Asking this kind of stuff is akin to asking people which religion is best. It's common knowledge that Jews who use SketchUp make the best 3D artists. -m Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raven52321 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Hammer versus wrench- which is the better tool? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Smith 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Hammer versus wrench- which is the better tool? THE FINAL SHOWDOWN (Explosions) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redsodeep 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 My money is on Hammer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raven52321 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 OMG- wrench just released a new version, and STILL no undo for nails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
govinda 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Zoroastrians with nail trimmers could do the job in half the time. That's why they're so in demand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaver 1 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 OMG- wrench just released a new version, and STILL no undo for nails. it's like automatic duck for nails and nuts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pixel_pimp 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 I wish this forums software had a system that checks for related or similar topics. Like digg.com when you post something it finds things that are similar to what you are trying to post. Especially for people like me who are guilty of being a day late and a dollar short when it comes to current posts! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eric 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 on mograph.org i typed Cinema 4D and Maya this is what there was... http://www.google.com/cse?q=cinema+4d+Maya...9%3Al3meqxmtdnc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiniJay 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 O ITS ON!!!!! POP vs. Soda vs. COKE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raven52321 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 HAMMERTIME Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MiniJay 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 in case anyone wants to know how to bring "the hamma" to a party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeSki4D 0 Report post Posted December 18, 2007 Well, if you really want to see what an artist can do with a hammer, then you have to see this: Hammer Juggle (the real magic starts at about the 30 sec mark) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites