Dave_Navarro 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 I bought 3D Studio Max in college and I've been playing around a bit with it lately trying to learn how to use it. I'm finding it very difficult. So, after viewing some of the stuff here, I decided to download the Cinema 4D demo and give it a try. DAMN! It just seems a lot easier to use and I've been able to do a few things with it that I could never figure out in 3DSM. However, I'm still fairly new to all this 3D stuff, so I started looking for online tutorials and while I did manage to find a few here and there, I just can't seem to find much of anything for it. And trust me, I've visited all of the sites mentioned here, mentioned on the Maxon site and numerous other forums specific to C4D. But I keep running into hundreds and hundreds of tutorials for 3DSM and maybe a couple hundred for C4D. I was chatting with a friend of mine in Texas who uses C4D (and talked me into downloading the demo) and he told me that most people who use C4D are professionals that don't share their secrets. To share a secret is to give away a marketable advantage. Unlike 3DSM which has thousands of hobbyists that use it and are willing to share what they learn because they don't use it for professional work. I did find a number of interesting looking "paid" tutorials, but I'm not that rich (yet). I'm gonna blow a big part of my software budget on C4D if I get it. Basically, I'm trying to talk myself into buying it and the only thing holding me back at the moment is the lack of tutorials. So, um... hmm... I guess I'm asking what I should do...? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Smith 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Without posting which places you already tried, it's hard narrowing down new options. But to cover some basics: cineversity.com c4dcafe.com 3dfluff.com c4dportal.com 3dattack.net (archives of their publication is a goldmine) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TVGRAFX.COM 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Dave, You are more than welcome to check out some of my tutorials. I'm in the process of recording a new one that gives away trade secrets dealing with the Mograph Module and After Effects. Plus some modeling tips. Most are free, but a couple will cost a few bucks. Nothing over $25. The other sites that Chris talked about are great starting points. LINK Keith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_Monkey 8 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Are you interested in becoming a working 3D artist or are you just a hobbyist? -m Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
microdot 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Tim from HYPA has been doing two terms of C4d over at fxphd.com as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Navarro 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Are you interested in becoming a working 3D artist or are you just a hobbyist? On a few projects I've done, I have had to outsource the 3D work because I was incapable of doing it myself. I'd prefer to do everything myself, if possible. So I guess the answer is that I'm interested in becoming a "working 3D artist", although not as my primary profession. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Navarro 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Without posting which places you already tried, it's hard narrowing down new options. But to cover some basics: cineversity.com c4dcafe.com 3dfluff.com c4dportal.com 3dattack.net (archives of their publication is a goldmine) With the exception of 3dattack.net (thanks for that), I have been do all the others mentioned. I do not have a paid Cineversity membership, so I can't access a lot of stuff there, but in going through the list of paid member only tutorials, I didn't see much that I am personally interested in. I have a Lynda.com account and went through the tutorial there which helped me greatly with the interface. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krpdesign 1 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 i have learned a ton about C4D from 3DKiwi over at c4dcafe. he builds great video tutorials. the guy is explicitly clear, tells you exactly what you need to know, and has the BEST accent ever. i started about a year ago, knowing nothing about any 3d, and now I have a pretty good basic grasp of it. im even working on a short film with some simply rigged characters....with almost everything learned from 3Dkiwi tuts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Navarro 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 You are more than welcome to check out some of my tutorials. I'm in the process of recording a new one that gives away trade secrets dealing with the Mograph Module and After Effects. Plus some modeling tips. Most are free, but a couple will cost a few bucks. Nothing over $25. The other sites that Chris talked about are great starting points. Keith, MANY thanks. I had found your site already through an earlier link on this site and have found your tutorials in both AE and C4D to be both invaluable and easy to follow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dave_Navarro 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Tim from HYPA has been doing two terms of C4d over at fxphd.com as well. Thanks much, but OUCH it's expensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chriskelley 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 Still pretty new but I've got a few up over at http://themographblog.com - they're usually pretty specific issues that I cover but you may find some useful. c Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdudlik 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 cmiVFX has a series of Cinema ones, $50 each. I bought the 5th one, its pretty good. Getting a hold of the people who run the site can be a bit difficult though, but the videos are good. I think mograph should start a del.icio.us account and keep things like this handy for people to just browse through their links!!! What do you say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Barrett 0 Report post Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) Hey Dave, I know you said you checked out Cineversity, but there's a lot of tutorials to sift through, even if you haven't bought a subscription. If you didn't see the Power Tour series, I'd definitely check it out. All those tutorials are free and deal specifically with motion graphics. If there's other types of tutorials you'd really like to see, please post a request in the Cineversity forum. It helps our instructors decide how to spend their time. Also, make sure to check out Tim Clampham's free tutorials and his blog (which he'd probably have time to update if we hadn't conned him into doing some tuts for Cineversity). Rick Barrett MAXON USA / Cineversity Edited July 8, 2008 by Rick Barrett Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parallax 0 Report post Posted July 9, 2008 I was chatting with a friend of mine in Texas who uses C4D (and talked me into downloading the demo) and he told me that most people who use C4D are professionals that don't share their secrets. To share a secret is to give away a marketable advantage. Unlike 3DSM which has thousands of hobbyists that use it and are willing to share what they learn because they don't use it for professional work. Haha! Seriously. You do know that the marketshare of 3dsmax is ten times that of C4D right? That's why there is so much info on it available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Srek 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 You do know that the marketshare of 3dsmax is ten times that of C4D right? That's why there is so much info on it available. Make that "installed base", since the market share in new sales is very different from this Cheers Björn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parallax 0 Report post Posted July 10, 2008 Haha, true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Sao_Bento Report post Posted July 10, 2008 Still pretty new but I've got a few up over at http://themographblog.com - they're usually pretty specific issues that I cover but you may find some useful. Hey - that's some good stuff. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tomcat 0 Report post Posted July 14, 2008 Yeah, Cinversity is pretty good. Occasionally the instructions are too fast and you have to play it over and over to figure out what he did, but the tuts from independents are usually well done and thorough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
viana 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2008 3dKIWI rules man... www.c4dcafe.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Smith 0 Report post Posted July 15, 2008 3dKIWI rules man... www.c4dcafe.com I guess reading previous posts doesn't rule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bellographix 0 Report post Posted September 25, 2008 3dKIWI rules man... www.c4dcafe.com Where are the tutorials on 3dKIWI? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
schumway 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2008 Its not a program, its a guy making tutorials on c4d. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C.Smith 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2008 Where are the tutorials on 3dKIWI? You're joking , right? Where it says 'tutorials' on the big header at the top. (between 'links' and 'forums'). It's a button. You activate it by putting your curser over that and then hit your left mouse button. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carbaldi 0 Report post Posted September 26, 2008 LOL! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites