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Guest sneakergimp

and they impeached Clinton for a blowjob ... WTF?

 

and whatever happened to Trumans 'The buck stops here', Bush should have been impeached a long time ago for his lies

 

Wake me up when America turns off it's television

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Guest MBX

don't forget that we have a berlusconi in eu/ italy who's also cute... and controls the media there by 80% or more. with as stupid tv-landscape as the us'... altough not that many channels and he doesn't occupy other countries and kill, but still. he said bush is his best friend. sweet...

even here in switzerland a rightwing-populist multi-millionaire called christoph blocher is in the parlament and one of the 7 leaders. it's just sad there are actually many people who voted for him.

 

it's sad nationalism takes place in smallminded people's brains.

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Guest fredcamino

all i can think about is breasts. soft ones. on women of an uncertain ethnic origin. but certainly with a touch of melanin in their skin. i don't watch television. but all i can think about is breasts.

 

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Guest fredcamino

she's definately a lib.

 

this break from legitimacy has been brought to you by fred camino, feel free to continue your legitimate discussion now.

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Guest atslopes

Fox News Channel=Ultimate brainwash

 

 

I blame the for the iraq war, and bush winning a second term especially Bill Oreilly.

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Guest MBX

(they're certainly not coming for the political discussions)

 

do you wanna say girls aren't able to discuss politics? you damn sexist!

 

(the pancakes gave me a sleepless night... tummy-ache)

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How many of you think that the leak of the attack on Iran, is planned. just to spread a notion of confidence and strength in American military? It could work in getting the Iranian mullahs in line and make Americans think that the government and military is not weekend by the Iraq war. Make Bush Admin look strong.

 

Govinda! Cleaver thing with your logo. U listen to the common man.!!

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Into the Dark

The Pentagon Plan to Provoke Terrorist Attacks

by CHRIS FLOYD

 

This age: layers of lime harden in the sick son's blood... There's nowhere to run from the tyrant-epoch... Who else will you kill? Who else glorify? What other lies will you invent?

 

Osip Mandelshtam,

"1 January 1924"

 

This column stands foursquare with the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, when he warns that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large. We know, as does the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, that this statement is an incontrovertible fact, a matter of scientific certainty. And how can we and the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense, be so sure that there will be more terrorist attacks against the American people and civilization at large?

 

Because these attacks will be instigated at the order of the Honorable Donald H. Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defense.

 

This astonishing admission was buried deep in a story which was itself submerged by mounds of gray newsprint and glossy underwear ads in last Sunday's Los Angeles Times. There--in an article by military analyst William Arkin, detailing the vast expansion of the secret armies being massed by the former Nixon bureaucrat now lording it over the Pentagon--came the revelation of Rumsfeld's plan to create "a super-Intelligence Support Activity" that will "bring together CIA and military covert action, information warfare, intelligence, and cover and deception."

 

According to a classified document prepared for Rumsfeld by his Defense Science Board, the new organization--the "Proactive, Preemptive Operations Group (P2OG)"--will carry out secret missions designed to "stimulate reactions" among terrorist groups, provoking them into committing violent acts which would then expose them to "counterattack" by U.S. forces.

 

In other words--and let's say this plainly, clearly and soberly, so that no one can mistake the intention of Rumsfeld's plan--the United States government is planning to use "cover and deception" and secret military operations to provoke murderous terrorist attacks on innocent people. Let's say it again: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, George W. Bush and the other members of the unelected regime in Washington plan to deliberately foment the murder of innocent people--your family, your friends, your lovers, you--in order to further their geopolitical ambitions.

 

For P2OG is not designed solely to flush out terrorists and bring them to justice--a laudable goal in itself, although the Rumsfeld way of combating terrorism by causing it is pure moral lunacy. (Or should we use the Regime's own preferred terminology and just call it "evil"?) No, it seems the Pee-Twos have bigger fish to fry. Once they have sparked terrorists into action--by killing their family members? luring them with loot? fueling them with drugs? plying them with jihad propaganda? messing with their mamas? or with agents provocateurs, perhaps, who infiltrate groups then plan and direct the attacks themselves?--they can then take measures against the "states/sub-state actors accountable" for "harboring" the Rumsfeld-roused gangs. What kind of measures exactly? Well, the classified Pentagon program puts it this way: "Their sovereignty will be at risk."

 

The Pee-Twos will thus come in handy whenever the Regime hankers to add a little oil-laden real estate or a new military base to the Empire's burgeoning portfolio. Just find a nest of violent malcontents, stir 'em with a stick, and presto: instant "justification" for whatever level of intervention/conquest/rapine you might desire. And what if the territory you fancy doesn't actually harbor any convenient marauders to use for fun and profit? Well, surely a God-like "super-Intelligence Support Activity" is capable of creation ex nihilo, yes?

 

The Rumsfeld-Bush plan to employ murder and terrorism for political, financial and ideological gain does have historical roots (besides al Qaeda, the Stern Gang, the SA, the SS, the KGB, the IRA, the UDF, Eta, Hamas, Shining Path and countless other upholders of Bushian morality, decency and freedom). We refer of course to Operations Northwoods, oft mentioned in these pages: the plan that America's top military brass presented to President John Kennedy in 1963, calling for a phony terrorist campaign--complete with bombings, hijackings, plane crashes and dead Americans--to provide "justification" for an invasion of Cuba, the Mafia/Corporate fiefdom which had recently been lost to Castro.

 

Kennedy rejected the plan, and was killed a few months later. Now Rumsfeld has resurrected Northwoods, but on a far grander scale, with resources at his disposal undreamed of by those brass of yore, with no counterbalancing global rival to restrain him--and with an ignorant, corrupt president who has shown himself all too eager to embrace any means whatsoever that will augment the wealth and power of his own narrow, undemocratic, elitist clique.

 

There is prestuplyeniye here, transgression, a stepping-over--deliberately, with open eyes, with forethought, planning, and conscious will--of lines that should never be crossed. Acting in deadly symbiosis with rage-maddened killers, God-crazed ranters and those supreme "sub-state actors," the mafias, Bush and his cohorts are plunging the world into an abyss, an endless night of black ops, retribution, blowback, deceit, of murder and terror--wholesale, retail, state-sponsored, privatized; of fear and degradation, servility, chaos, and the perversion of all that's best in us, of all that we've won from the bestiality of our primal nature, all that we've raised above the mindless ravening urges and impulses still boiling in the mud of our monkey brains.

 

It's not a fight for freedom; it's a retreat into darkness.

 

And the day will be a long time coming.

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War is a way of human life. The stronger conquer the weaker, as it is in the animal kingdom, as it has been since the first caveman threw a rock at a monkey.

 

Iran has deserved a bomb or two for a looong time- or don't you read the news?

 

Nothing is funnier than a conspiracy-theorist peace freak. The media makes money off of your fear. All you know is what you read in the papers and what the sensationalist media tells you. Go to Iraq yourself if you're so damn worldly and smart, and see how it REALLY is over there. Ask an Iraqi instead of a reporter trying to push a book or hype some story to get famous. Ask a soldier instead of Dan Rather what's going on. Then maybe for once you'll have a perpective based on real life and not neo-hippie college professor bullshit. Turn on CNN and you'd think there's blood running down every street. Go there and you'll find millions of people finally able to live their life any way they choose for the first time ever.

 

Or go order up a latte and sit around and cry about what you don't know, in the safety of the western world.

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How many of you think that the leak of the attack on Iran, is planned. just to spread a notion of confidence and strength in American military? It could work in getting the Iranian mullahs in line and make Americans think that the government and military is not weekend by the Iraq war. Make Bush Admin look strong.

 

It's pretty common actually. We leaked to Haiti that the US 82nd airborne was about to drop on their leaders and they surrendered. We did daylight "wargames" in front of Panamanian troops before taking out Noriega so that most of their military just stayed in their barracks and didn't fight. We leaked it in Somolia so the thousands of Marines hitting the beach would be seen on every TV station. The list goes on...

 

Those in the Middle-East are used to boasting to each other without actually fighting, so they have to actually see planes in the sky before they believe it's actually happening.

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awww... headbox, our friendly soldier hero. Gogo super-trooper, rescue us all.

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P.S.: this was ironic

 

and about this quote:

War is a way of human life.  The stronger conquer the weaker, as it is in the animal kingdom, as it has been since the first caveman threw a rock at a monkey.

 

This is the way Hitler argued. They used a perverted form of Darwinism to justify their cruelty, just like you. Seriously, you almost sound like a Nazi to me.

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Guest MBX

cool headbox, you should rather go back and watch foxnews and listen what they got to tell you. because yeah, you should believe them, the mainstream media backing the goverment. and no, history doesn't repeat itself at all... not even a little, nooo.

and yes "terrorists" suddenly decided to attack usa, because they've got nothing better to do. but not at all because of bushy-boy's cowboy behaviour with his buddy sharon.

 

now that georgey's inauguration looks like a big adolf hitler party and spending 40mio for that in times of tsunami-victims suffering... you might join the dinner there, if you've got tickets.

 

and yea, we're only conspiracy-nuts peace freaks... but why are you even here and not in iraq fighting, dropping some bombs, be the macho-shooting-machine rushing over the weak? you little fig wannabe-soldier.

 

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I was planning to go the Fred route, and just think about soft breasts, but instead, a final reply on Headbox's post.

 

I understand what you're saying about war being part of human nature, cause frankly, humans are violent creatures. I'm totally not feeling you're thoughts on the middle eastern topic though.

 

It seems to me you might be a bit misinformed about the whats and whys going on in the region Iraq/Iran. The conflict between the countless 'tribes' and their respective clerical leaders and religions are well on their way to being 1 of the oldest in the world. You, and obviously the current presiden(t)(cy), are under the false impression that the western views on freedom and democracy can be forced upon a group of people that have views that might be 180 degrees from what you perceive as being ethically or morally sound. The assumption that naturally progressing phenomena such as culture, society democracy or even religion can be reformed at will is a very false one. One might even state that the people got the leader they deserved, although in this case, it might be a bit strong. The irony of it all is that the oppressed in Iraq were exactly those that despise everything the western world stands for. (not all of them of course)

This is also the case in Iran, however, the Shia are an overwhelming majority.

 

To put this into context with your darwinistic views on society, and the (state)monopoly on violence in general, regimechanging wih force leads to terrorist attacks being fair game if i follow your reasoning. Just because we think our use of force is of some sort of higher order, or a necessary evil if you will, doesn't mean we can just go in and get down and dirty when we like. In a way a Palestinian suicide bomber can use the same reasoning to justify killing a school bus. His targets and weapons of choice or merely based on differences in culture and mainly financial means. That doesn't mean blowing up children is morally accepted behaviour, but just might explain why this assymetric warfare is getting more and more common. The lack of equal opponents in this so called war on terror will not change overnight because all those apparant differences. What is good or bad is totally arbitrary and subject to change.

 

Whatever, i lost my point.

 

Back to tits. I've been preoccupied with cute small ones lately.

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Guest MBX

nobody should excuse himself with tits for having a political opinion...

 

those who aren't able shouldn't write, there are enough tits elsewhere...

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Guest govinda

Asymmetric warfare = different views on the value of human life. Those who value life less, who are therefore willing to lose more of it, are the world's most stubborn enemies, the kinds of enemies we've run into more, who sit right on the world's most vital resources and the world's most vital religious sites in a time when nuclear weapons are getting just that much easier to find. Sometimes you have no choice but to see God as a big Larry David in the sky, rigging up these zany situations for us to walk right into like George on a curb with a Frogger game needing to cross the street.

 

Frank Herbert was my first introduction to asymmetric warfare in the original Dune. The guy was so ahead of his time it's scary.

 

(World's most vital resources, that is, outside of breasts, champagne glass preferably.)

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