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Guest govinda
i hate adbusters.  boy do i ever.

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Me too, hah, so much posturing on such a useless topic. Nice to know I'm not alone. But on that side point of bias...After extensive wasting of time on blogs, I've devised (cue clarion):

 

Govinda's Two Laws of Media Bias:

 

1) The media is biased towards going to war:

 

....-because it gives you a chance to get a scoop.

....-because viewers tune in for the drama of it, giving you the chance of a massive career boost

........(Wolf Blitzer, I'm talking about you, circa 1991).

....-because it's exciting, and you get to use videophones and dress up like a young Ed Murrow.

 

........Evidence:

............Judith Miller's reporting pre-war in the supposedly 'liberal' NYTimes

............Relentless search for new lingo, e.gs., 'embedded reporters,' the effect of which

................is to drive involvement.

............The recruitment of ex-military, the effect of which is to make it

................seem like a table-top game.

............The creation of war-imagery graphic packages, using, ta-daah, us, to sell war coverage.

 

2) Once at war, the media is biased towards finding fault with those who went to war:

 

....-because it gives you a chance to get a scoop.

....-because the media fact-checks, and the facts of any war ain't pretty

........(Seymour Hersh comes out of hiding).

....-because it's exciting, you get to speak truth to power and dress like a young Woodward.

 

........Evidence:

............Self-evident.

 

For anyone scoring, that's one bias right, one bias left. The current admin took full advantage of the first, and now it's facing the second, and they and their lapdog wackos like headbox are crying like little babies about it. Waaah! Mama, the big libwal media is huwting me!!

 

Me, I'm all for bias #2 because warfare is Loki loosed in the world to create mischief. It has to be released only as a last result, and very very carefully at that. And this one just plain wasn't.

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Guest seattlevideokid

you obviously are a complete moron and have no idea of the true reasons we went into iraq in the first place, do you? try reading more into things before you go and open your mouth next time!

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Guest Animeishon

I love people who support the troops but are against the war

 

It's like you don't wanna get aids but you fuck around without using condoms

 

or like models think people are interested in them for their inner values

 

well you get the point

 

 

 

oh and the reason why the US hasn't been attacked yet is that the ideology of islam fundamentalist is all about patience and long term wars

 

they think in decades not years

 

 

anyway, iran won't get attacked, they have a real army and real big guns, they are not some punks with an ak-47 and a couple of grenades

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Guest igorschmigor
the bush family does this devil-sign a little too often, don't they...

a little sign to the bling bling illuminati gang.

 

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interesting, just found this: http://infowars.com/articles/nwo/bush_inau...i_hand_sign.htm

 

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What the f**k's going on? When Bush talked about the axis of evil, did he actually ever say what side of the axis he believes to be on?

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Guest govinda
What the f**k's going on? When Bush talked about the axis of evil, did he actually ever say what side of the axis he believes to be on?

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Hah, niiice...

 

Just to clear up for the people on the mograph home continent, that gesture is called the 'Longhorn salute.' The nickname of the University of Texas is the Longhorns, that's their salute. They're acknowledging their Texas roots, uh, because there's no salute for 'We're really from Connecticut but I came to Texas where I failed in every business I entered and have been faking a Texas accent since 1997.'

 

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Guest MBX

well for some it might be the "texas-sign", but it's rather popular as the "2-fingers-satan-salute". and for bushes it might have a double-meaning. - otherwise i wonder why clinton did this so often, i saw some pics... or maria shriver (arnold's wife), etc... they're not from texas.

i'm not from texas too and i do it unconciously sometimes and have to slap this evil hand with the other good one.

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Guest igorschmigor

Currently reading some online-news about new acts of terrorism in iraq. Two people got decapitated on open street. The situation is so sad. I think before attacking any further countries, the situation in iraq should be stabilized first. Their police needs more support, money, weapons, all that. It seems to be almost anarchy there. I hope the elections will bring peace.

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Guest igorschmigor

Sermon, is that you? Please tell me that Synthia is your name when you crossdress.

Or do we have an invasion of careless people?

Edited by igorschmigor

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Guest parallax

Invasion of the cavetroll single-posters.

 

Anyway, Headbox, if i were you, i'd check your stats with some other 'agencies' or maybe even the UN. It's commonly agreed that the cancerrate shot up with nearly a 1000% after the 1st Gulf War. tons upon tons (100.000+) of depleted uranium have been conveniently been 'placed' in Iraqi soil. Do you know what the half-life is of depleted uranium? And please don't reference 50's H-Bomb infomercials.

 

About the whole illuminati/masonry thing, that's some freaky interconnected shit running all the way down to the Dutch Royal Family. (Bilderberg et al) I'm not saying we're being prepared for the second coming in the new era of the Satan or something like that (With GWB undoubtly running the Western Division), but the word coincidence is a bit of an understatement.

 

@ Govinda

 

You truly are a walking encyclopedia.

 

This is btw. a truly remarkable forum. People taking the piss without every thread getting locked or moderated into oblivion :)

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Guest fredcamino
girls have no heart... it's all about sex & party

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lol, this kid is a genius. that really made me laff.

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Who cares. It's party time.

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came across a pic which reminded me of that post:

 

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Guest govinda
Who cares. It's party time.

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Eh, I think this was a little dry irony, as in, 'clearly nobody in power cares because they're spending $40 million on the inauguration.'

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Guest MBX

hmm...

 

By Dahr Jamail

'Coalition' forces are removing entire homes which have been bombed, meanwhile most homes that were bombed are left as they were. Suspicious?

 

“The soldiers are doing strange things in Fallujah,” said one of my contacts in Fallujah who just returned. He was in his city checking on his home and just returned to Baghdad this evening.

 

Speaking on condition of anonymity, he continued, “In the center of the Julan Quarter they are removing entire homes which have been bombed, meanwhile most of the homes that were bombed are left as they were. Why are they doing this?”

 

According to him, this was also done in the Nazal, Mualmeen, Jubail, and Shuhada’a districts, and the military began to do this after Eid, which was after Nov. 20.

 

He told me he has watched the military use bulldozers to push the soil into piles and load it onto trucks to carry away. This was done in the Julan and Jimouriya quarters of the city, which is of course where the heaviest fighting occurred during the siege, as this was where resistance was the fiercest.

 

“At least two kilometers [1.2 mi.] of soil were removed,” he explained. “Exactly as they did at Baghdad Airport after the heavy battles there during the invasion and the Americans used their special weapons.”

 

He explained that in certain areas where the military used “special munitions,” 200 square meters [2,150 sq. ft.] of soil was being removed from each blast site.

 

In addition, many of his friends have told him that the military brought in water-tanker trucks to power blast the streets, although he hadn’t seen this himself.

 

“They went around to every house and have shot the water tanks,” he continued. “As if they are trying to hide the evidence of chemical weapons in the water, but they only did this in some areas, such as Julan and in the souk [market] there as well.”

 

He first saw this having been done after Dec. 20.

 

Again, this is reflective of stories I’ve been told by several refugees from Fallujah.

 

Just last December, a 35-year-old merchant from Fallujah, Abu Hammad, told me what he’d experienced when he was still in the city during the siege.

 

“The American warplanes came continuously through the night and bombed everywhere in Fallujah! It did not stop even for a moment! If the American forces did not find a target to bomb, they used sound bombs just to terrorize the people and children. The city stayed in fear; I cannot give a picture of how panicked everyone was.”

 

“In the mornings I found Fallujah empty, as if nobody lives in it,” he’d said. “Even poisonous gases have been used in Fallujah – they used everything – tanks, artillery, infantry, poison gas. Fallujah has been bombed to the ground. Nothing is left.”

 

In Amiriyat al-Fallujah, a small city just outside Fallujah where many doctors from Fallujah have been practicing since they were unable to do so at Fallujah General Hospital, similar stories are being told.

 

Last month, one refugee who had just arrived at the hospital in the small city explained that he’d watched the military bring in water-tanker trucks to power-blast some of the streets in Fallujah.

 

“Why are they doing this?” asked Ahmed (name changed for his protection). “To beautify Fallujah? No! They are covering their tracks from the horrible weapons they used in my city.”

 

Also last November, another Fallujah refugee from the Julan area, Abu Sabah told me, “They [u.S. military] used these weird bombs that put up smoke like a mushroom cloud. Then small pieces fell from the air with long tails of smoke behind them.”

 

He explained that pieces of these bombs exploded into large fires that burned people’s skin even when water was dumped on their bodies, which is the effect of phosphorous weapons, as well as napalm. “People suffered so much from these, both civilians and fighters alike,” he said.

 

My friend Suthir [name changed to protect identity] was a member of one of the Iraqi Red Crescent relief convoys that was allowed into Fallujah at the end of November.

 

“I’m sure the Americans committed bad things there, but who can discover and say this?” she said when speaking of what she saw of the devastated city. “They didn’t allow us to go to the Julan area or any of the others where there was heavy fighting, and I’m sure that is where the horrible things took place.”

 

“The Americans didn’t let us in the places where everyone said there was napalm used,” she added. “Julan and those places where the heaviest fighting was, nobody is allowed to go there.”

 

On Nov. 30, the U.S. military prevented an aid convoy from reaching Fallujah. This aid convoy was sent by the Iraqi Ministry of Health, but was told by soldiers at a checkpoint to return in “eight or nine days,” reported AP.

 

Dr. Ibrahim al-Kubaisi, who was with the relief team, told reporters at that time, “There is a terrible crime going in Fallujah, and they do not want anybody to know.”

 

With the military maintaining strict control over who enters Fallujah, the truth of what weapons were used remains difficult to find.

 

Meanwhile, people who lived in different districts of Fallujah continue to tell the same stories.

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Guest govinda

But then certain parts of the mideast are 'the land of crazy rumors.' You can find someone over there to quote on the record that the US is using giant attack monkeys with napalm peepee that they light with tree-size matches and use to raze entire housing blocks. I remember watching an old guy in Najaf tell the much-repeated story last summer of the bloodthirsty djinn what stalked the desert at night and snatched children. 'I've seen him, he had burning red eyes!' the old man said to the camera. The djinn was an American-trained animal of some kind, you see. Shadowy soldiers fouling wells, neutering herd animals and salting the earth when they're not spreading pornography to children.

 

It's rumors by the thousands, no gullible journalist left wanting, no Arabic-character snopes.com to fact-check with. Shaker of salt, daily dosage one grain.

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The one that always gets trotted out during wartime is (stop reading now if you're squeamish): 'Enemy soldiers took our babies and played a game where they threw the babies in the air and caught them on their bayonets.'

 

I first heard this from an older person in my extended family who was alive during the Japanese occupation of Malaysia. I was horrified, and you could tell that she still felt the rage of it. Then I heard it a few years later about the Iraqis when they went into Kuwait, babies on bayonets again, hmm...along with the famous story of invading Iraqis disconnecting babies from their incubators in hospitals. At that point I smelled a fish and decided to watch out. Then I heard it about the Indonesians in East Timor, and that time it even made the news. They took our babies...bayonets, etc.

 

I'd lay money that this story has been trotted out ever since there have been sharp weapons, and I'd also lay money that it didn't happen 90% of the time it's reported this century at least. It's a like a virus that pops up whenever there's a conflict. I'm sure somewhere, sometime, it has happened, but the way it always finds its way out is just too much to swallow.

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You can find someone over there to quote on the record that the US is using giant attack monkeys with napalm peepee that they light with tree-size matches and use to raze entire housing blocks.

 

Well, you'd have to admit, it WOULD be inherently cool if it were true.

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The US military is the only one in the world that uses "smart" minefields that can be activated and deactivated, develops non-lethal weapons, cleans up after it bombs, has strict peacetime and wartime pollution controls, has the ability to airlift mass supplies to national disaster zones, has lead the way in implementing civil rights decades ahead of any civilian civil rights laws, and fights to bring democracy into lands ruled by dictators, leaving as early as possible... but still there will always be hippies crying about it until wars are fought by robots in safety arenas on the moon.

 

Iraq will be the next Japan or Germany and other middle east nations will follow. There will only be world peace when every nation is free. Dictators kill their way to the top, and only killing them and their regime can remove them.

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