yocfe 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2011 Okay, im a big fan of Jrcanest. He made that wonderful thing http://vimeo.com/12677264, amazing, amazing video showing his skills. My doubt is: can someone say something about how he makes that circle on 0:15?? thank you! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConstantMotion 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2011 1 Shape Layer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yocfe 0 Report post Posted April 20, 2011 Thanks for asking but it doesnt help me in any possible ways. Could you be more specific? How can I animate the path in that way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dotcommer 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 ConstantMotion gave you a good hint. I suggest experimenting with that suggestion, and see what you come up with. After that, come back here and we can further help out with any questions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JIMMY 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I'm sick of seeing people have a go at guys just starting out. People just want to learn. Yes, you make a good point about experimenting yourself, thats how I learnt as well. There seems to be so much mocking at people starting out. Just go easy on people. Edited April 21, 2011 by JIMMY Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destro 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 I'm sick of seeing people have a go at guys just starting out. People just want to learn. Yes, you make a good point about experimenting yourself, thats how I learnt as well. There seems to be so much mocking at people starting out. Just go easy on people. Spoon feeding people doesn't help them in the long run. Motion graphics is HARD WORK, and after that it's MORE HARD WORK. He was pointed in the right direction and asked to come back when he's ready. I'd call that being generous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JIMMY 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 You don't need to tell me about hard work. I know. And he will too soon enough. I'm sure he's just trying to get his head around the technique. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ConstantMotion 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I wasn't having a go at anyone. I was never told the straight answer, and in the long run it helps your workflow knowing how to access a certain effect rather than having to refer to that website every time you need to create a certain graphic. @yocfe Shape layers have hidden parameters if you search for them. Edited April 21, 2011 by ConstantMotion Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vozzz 2 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 i dunno, but thats a trippy effect =) i'd probably do it in C4D =) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Montreuil 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 Yeah that can be done with a single layer and a bunch of tweaking. Have fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mylenium 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 I'm sick of seeing people have a go at guys just starting out. Just happens. Don't make too much of it. There are good days and bad days for all of us and on some days I can be the nicest person on the planet, on others I just hate any question like that. There seems to be so much mocking at people starting out. I'd rather call it giving people a nudge. ;-) Don't misunderstand this, but even being rude can sometimes be in their best interest. I don't feel it serves anyone, least of all the learners themselves, to let things go too easy on them. A kick in the butt may not be nice, but when you look back later, you may find that it was exactly what was needed. With regards to the OP I simply feel he hasn't done exactly the exploration that would be required. I mean, if we start asking questions about repeating circles, when anyone here could probably cite at least 3 solutions without thinking much (at least Shape Layers, Radio Waves and Trapcode 3DStroke sprang immediately to my mind), then perhaps it's time mograph.net became a sub-domain of Video CoPilot? These are exactly the kind of questions I wouldn't expect to find here, but perfectly fit the bill over there... Mylenium Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
florio 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 i dunno, but thats a trippy effect =) i'd probably do it in C4D =) Yeah it seems like it might be quicker to make it in cinema Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
del_razor 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 I've done similar effects using a precomp of a "grid of lines" and then using polar co-ordinates on that precomp.. animate the grid coming in from one of the sides on the precomp and it'll introduce nicely like that.. Sorry for giving more explanation. I hope I haven't ruined anyone's careers by explaining this.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dotcommer 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 Jesus guys... Just giving a polite nudge to experiment. You've all blown this out of proportion. This all should have stopped with my first response. Chill, and move on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RVA8 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) I've done similar effects using a precomp of a "grid of lines" and then using polar co-ordinates on that precomp.. animate the grid coming in from one of the sides on the precomp and it'll introduce nicely like that.. Sorry for giving more explanation. I hope I haven't ruined anyone's careers by explaining this.. Oh no! Not the secrets! Edited April 21, 2011 by RVA8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jayfaker 1 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 Hmmm. I've never used shape layers before. Probably because I hate them. Probably because they don't work in 3D. Maybe I should actually give them a chance sometime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a2visual 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Shape layer. Edited April 21, 2011 by a2visual Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
del_razor 0 Report post Posted April 21, 2011 Shape layer. David Copperfield over here has the touch.. Shape Layer it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a2visual 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 David Copperfield over here has the touch.. Shape Layer it is The polar coordinates works too, especially if you want to go from a series of straight lines to a circle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
destro 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 Hmmm. I've never used shape layers before. Probably because I hate them. Probably because they don't work in 3D. Maybe I should actually give them a chance sometime. They are more powerful than they seem at first glance. It's like having an animated version of Illustrator right inside After Effects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willryan 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 They are more powerful than they seem at first glance. It's like having an animated version of Illustrator right inside After Effects. Never touched them before but appreciating the kick into the deep end. Repeaters and Trim Paths oh my. Layer order seems to be pretty key - it's especially picky with where you drop the animated stroke width to make sure it scales up each line individually. Nice stuff, and this is a great way to pick up some tricks versus being spoon fed. Still scratching my head on how to add some "delay" to the lines in the middle of the trim paths action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
a2visual 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 Never touched them before but appreciating the kick into the deep end. Repeaters and Trim Paths oh my. Layer order seems to be pretty key - it's especially picky with where you drop the animated stroke width to make sure it scales up each line individually. Nice stuff, and this is a great way to pick up some tricks versus being spoon fed. Still scratching my head on how to add some "delay" to the lines in the middle of the trim paths action. There may be a better way, but I duplicated the circle path 9 times after animating the first trim path, then just offset them with some extra keyframes and a lot of curves adjustments. Or you can just offset them in time depending on what effect you're going for. It'd be great if the Offset animator could offset time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J Montreuil 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 I love Shape Layers. If you delve into the parameters, you can create some pretty complex animations and shapes. Like he said, it's like having an animated Illustrator right in AE. Too bad they don't have a UI panel for the Shape Parameters. I bet a lot more people would discover their uses if they weren't hidden so far down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jayfaker 1 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 I just remember when they came out and they were so slow and clunky, and yes, you had to delve deep into the timeline to do anything with them. Also, I often (too often?) rely heavily on camera movements instead of shifting elements around in scenes and so having shape layers break 3D space is much less than desirable. Are shape layers still slow and clunky? Do they still break 3D space? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
willryan 0 Report post Posted April 22, 2011 It'd be great if the Offset animator could offset time. Thanks for the tip - I spent a bunch of time trolling around for something like a Delay Effector but couldn't find one either. Definitely an underused tool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites