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Guest parallax
What? This is just an illustration to help our kids understand what basically happened.

 

Okay, i know it's not funny at all. I'm sorry. Bad bad igor. I'll go to bed now.

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Haha, he's joking. Zangief is awesome.

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Guest parallax

God, i want to stab Geraldo in the face.

 

Kudos to him though.

 

btw, somehow "John Titor" is the 1st thing that came to mind when i saw this chaos.

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Guest amydot

hi guys,

 

thanks for your concern. :H

 

i actually came to the baton rouge, louisiana area for my parents' birthdays (both on august 27) and have been stuck here since last friday on account of katrina. i called my apartment complex and they said my particular apartment took no damage, but most did. for this i am very thankful.

 

because of i've been stuck here and haven't have any real obligations to fulfill (and only sporadic power), i've been spreading my time amongst 4 shelters in the area. it is unbelievably exhausting.

 

i'm not sure if this is being mentioned in national news, but baton rouge has become the largest city in the state on account of all of the refugees. both my city, denham springs, and the other cities in my parish, have all at LEAST doubled as well, as we're east of baton rouge and people hit us first. there's a scent in the air that can only be described as the smell of new orleans...there are small grocery stores being held up at 3am...nearly all stores are being required to close by 10pm and most are closing at sundown...restaurants are even closing by 8 or 9. there are just TOO MANY PEOPLE and not enough law enforcement and troops. please be in prayer both for the refugees and the cities which are taking them in. my heart absolutely is breaking for these folks, but we're all being displaced in some sort of way here. tempers are short and fights are breaking out even amongst the residents because of it. stores are running out of groceries, out of batteries, out of diapers, out of undergarments, out of hygiene products, out of everything...the only thing wal-mart has right now is mobs of frustrated people, i think.

 

there are also still many people who are trapped in new orleans...they have no food and no water (except the water the dead bodies are floating in all around them, which is NOT good to drink). it's friggin hot in this state and there are likely thousands dead already. please please pray for more relief efforts from the government...pray for the paperwork to either be postponed for now or hurried through...it's a matter of life and death.

 

the president finally came and visited yesterday after the mayor of new orleans publically called our government out on the lack of response. we're grateful for what we've gotten, but these people should be off of their roofs and out of their attics, and people should not be starving and passing out from heat exhaustion in front of the superdome waiting to be shuffled to the next temporary stop.

 

i heard that today we finally had some of the military helicopters that carry 45 people or so come start airlifting people. it's about damn time.

 

in spite of all the bad, there is a definite feeling of hope resonating through the air...everyone is pitching in, everyone is donating, everyone is trying to help as much as they possibly can. many people are sitting around the tv and spotting their houses or the houses of missing family members and simply weeping...but there are enough of us there to shower them in love. i heard a story once of a little boy who climbed into the lap of his neighbor who had just lost his wife and hugged him closely as he wept, and when people asked him why he did it, he responded, "i was just helping him cry". i think that's a lot of what we're doing here. we're helping people cry.

 

We're also feeding, clothing, and sheltering them, of course, but in a time like this there's just as much of a demand for their emotional and spiritual needs to be met. There are SO MANY stories of families who have been split apart and can't find each other...there are just no words to describe it.

 

anyway, i'm going to attempt the drive back to alabama now. wish me luck...i'll post more soon.

 

thanks again for your concern!

amy

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Guest SermonOfMockery

we're all glad you're safe, amy! i hope everything goes well you and your family.

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Guest nutrition_facts

they should send in some of those utah swat-teams that were so eager to crash a party a couple of weeks ago.

 

man..... this is horrible, can't imagine how it's being like for everyone in N.O. ... i just get cnn and sky news here and they're probably very watered down vs. reality, but it's still appalling.

 

:(

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Guest govinda

I can't not post this. It's too amazing, and some non-American mographers seem curious about it:

 

..."I understand that the U.S. Forest Service had water-tanker aircraft available to help douse the fires raging on our riverfront, but FEMA has yet to accept the aid. When Amtrak offered trains to evacuate significant numbers of victims -- far more efficiently than buses -- FEMA again dragged its feet. Offers of medicine, communications equipment and other desperately needed items continue to flow in, only to be ignored by the agency.

 

"But perhaps the greatest disappointment stands at the breached 17th Street levee. Touring this critical site yesterday with the President, I saw what I believed to be a real and significant effort to get a handle on a major cause of this catastrophe. Flying over this critical spot again this morning, less than 24 hours later, it became apparent that yesterday we witnessed a hastily prepared stage set for a Presidential photo opportunity; and the desperately needed resources we saw were this morning reduced to a single, lonely piece of equipment. The good and decent people of southeast Louisiana and the Gulf Coast -- black and white, rich and poor, young and old -- deserve far better from their national government.

 

Quote by Senator Mary Landrieu (D), LA, from her press release of 9/2/05. The 17th Street levee breach was the first breach, and also the worst.

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Guest amydot

yes, govinda, i'm not far from the coast so am thankful that i was not here as well. thanks for the kind words, sermon.

 

Thank god for Mary Landrieu. She has truly been a voice of reason and change through all of this. I know Ray Nagin is getting mixed reactions through the country and I think in Louisiana we were glad someone finally spoke up, but he should NOT be getting much credit for what he's done here. Bush declared the state of LA a disaster area 2 days before the hurricane even touched ground! 2 days! Why did he do this? Because the feds knew it was going to be rough. At that point, that's all they can do. Declaring it a disaster area opens up the funds and basically tells the state level 'we're here to help you, let us know what you need'. Well?........somebody dropped the ball. The reason this whole thing f'ed up is because they screwed up on the local and state level.

 

The real reason this assistance for these people was delayed was from a variety of reasons. One huge one was there was nobody in charge. Who should have been? That's easy, the Governor of Louisiana, and the mayor of the city(NO). Instead, they're busy going on the radio bad mouthing each other saying 'neener neener' instead of getting a command center going, getting things together. The water/flooding obviously complicated matters, but there was no protocol that they had in case of a disaster like this. Not having a plan always comes back to hurt you.

 

"Someone needs to get their smurf on a plane and get down here and figure it out," he said, calling on President Bush to be more responsive to the crisis that's taken hold of his city. "Excuse my French, everybody in America, but I am pissed. They are feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying. They don't have homes. They don't have jobs. The city of New Orleans will never be the same."

He just outrightedly admitted it. By asking somebody else to come in and 'figure it out', he's admitting they didn't have any plan in place. He or the Governor of Louisiana. Our government has become so federalized that some people do not even realize or have forgotten, that states still have power and responsibility as well, and they should be exercising said power and responsibility, instead of pointing fingers and asking the feds to 'come figure it out'.

 

sorry for the rant. been to busy to really vent it out. the louisiana government has never been known for it's strength and in fact is generally known for the opposite...we've unfortunately had the opportunity here to prove that. no one could have responded perfectly and we certainly will always be able to criticize, but in this particular case, i think we've done exceptionally poorly.

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Guest amydot

btw...don't forget about the rest of the gulf coast which was so severely impacted. i actually drove through pretty much all of it on my way home, as it was from baton rouge to mobile, and mississippi was absolutely horrific. There were no billboards left anywhere...there were military vehicles everywhere...there were trees still down in the middle of the interstate...there were roofs next to buildings....there was a place that sold mobile homes where every one of them was flat...my mental image of all of these places is just ripped to pieces.

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Guest Deepsky

Been watching the news like a mad man again, never so much since 911. It's shocking and wish I could do more than donate money. People's lives are beyond ruined for some. Everyday the city to come back gets worse. Today the army core of engineers say it will take up to 6-8 months to drain the city and another 1 year to dry?? Then the neighborhoods have to be environmentally tested overtime that it is safe to live in! I'm sure the city will come back on it's feet, but it's going to be a long long while with alot of money. It's sad to see this could have been prevented with both sides of political being in the wrong. Damn the response! And hell!? Spending money on building casinos instead of not keeping up with the barracks!? Sorry. And why the hell is FEMA turning down help and Bush snubbing other countries offering help and support!

CNN showed some footage today of countries covering this disaster, people feel for Americans but see how the government isn't as powerfull as they think. I'm still can't fatham the priority. It's crazy seeing what's happening.

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Guest pixelthief

Thank heavens you're OK, but perhaps you should do yourself a favor and use your brush with disaster to gain a different perspective on things, Amy.

 

First off, you're awfully quick with the Republican talking points. I mean, those are brand spanking new, hot off the presses GOP sizzlers you were just tossing about.

 

An event of this magnitude is clearly federal jurisdiction. That is not even remotely debatable. The question is, which of the two federal agencies tasked with managing these sorts of crises should be held accountable: FEMA or The Dept. of Homeland Security.?

 

George Bush actually said this:

"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."

What...

the FUCK?

 

SO, lemme get this straight, they've known about this for years. They had two days to evacuate the city. And they couldn't have done any better? Well that pretty well blows away any remaining shred of faith I may have in my government tackling domestic terrorist attacks.

 

But you're right. Bush declared a state of emergency. He signed something. He flew over in a jet and peered out of the window down on the suffering.

 

And Mary Landrieu? She was talking outta her ass on CNN today. Anderson Cooper momentarily located his balls and took her to task. Totally called her out on TV.

 

Possibly did her some good. Today she alleged this.

Same allegation, from another source:

the louisiana government has never been known for it's strength and in fact is generally known for the opposite...we've unfortunately had the opportunity here to prove that.

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I agree with you. The government of Louisiana is pretty worthless. But so are those talking points of yours. It's a total copout. This is Washington's fault and everyone knows it. Yes, all of Washington. But most of all, Bush

 

I saved the worst for last

 

"The 2004 hurricane season was the worst in decades. In spite of that, the federal government came back this spring with the steepest reduction in hurricane and flood-control funding for New Orleans in history. Because of the proposed cuts, the Corps office there imposed a hiring freeze. Officials said that money targeted for the SELA project -- $10.4 million, down from $36.5 million -- was not enough to start any new jobs."
It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.

 

-- Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; New Orleans Times-Picayune, June 8, 2004.

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Guest igorschmigor

Just why is Bush always on holidays anyway. What kind of a president is he? Everytime something happens i read "Bush interrupted his holiday five (<- number always varies) days after the event".

 

The USA have the infrastructure, the money, the equipment and the people to cope with such a disaster much better than they did. I'm convinced that they would instantly have sent thousands of troops, lots of medicine and food to the people if this had happened in New York.

 

 

P.S: Very glad to hear from you again, Amydot.

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Guest amydot

all valid points, pixelthief, and all things that i'm fully aware of. for the record, i do not care for bush as a president, am not a republican by any stretch of the imagination, and think he was incredibly slow to action in this event. i also feel that if this had happened in new york, he would have been there from the beginning to the end, actually USING his given authority.

 

HOWEVER, in spite of his lack of response, it is my opinion that the primary reason that this disaster was worse than it had to be was the complete lack in planning by state and local officials. The feds stepped in when they realized the governor and mayor had no clue what they were doing, finally providing the assistance that is needed.

 

It's hard to compare this to 9/11 because 9/11 was a terrorist attack and not a natural disaster. Plus NYC still had it's resources available to it. However, one stark contrast that can't be argued is that Rudy had a plan, and he executed that plan. And it worked. The state of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans did not, and that's where our people have taken a hard hit.

 

on another note....i have a friend whose dad owns a refrigerated storage unit business in houma. today a truck delivered 800 dead bodies for temporary storage. first of all, who has the time to be collecting these bodies? and secondly, if this many have already been collected...well, it just makes me wonder what all they've not told us at this point.

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Guest govinda

My god, those storage units. It's like Silence of the Lambs x 800. The security guards there storage place better not spook easily as they walk around the place at night.

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Guest amydot
Don't want to sound like a smart ass but how did she called?

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in the spirit of smart ass, probably from her phone.

 

it's hard to get a connection, but not impossible.

 

thanks for posting that clip, govinda.

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Guest ai

Ok i'm an idiot I regret to have said it that way. In no way i claimed the guy was saying bs.

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Guest govinda
Ok i'm an idiot I regret to have said it that way. In no way i claimed the guy was saying bs.

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It was actually embarassing for a second, as I scrambled to find out the answer. I wondered too once you said it, so np w/me at least.

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Guest igorschmigor
in the spirit of smart ass, probably from her phone.

 

it's hard to get a connection, but not impossible.

 

thanks for posting that clip, govinda.

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:huh:

 

maybe it's possible in the dry shelters, but you need electricity to phone and when your house is flooded you don't have any electricity, do you? SAT phones ... maybe, but using it every day without having to recharge the batteries?

How does he know that she drowned? When you're dead you don't pick up the phone, when you got evacuated you don't pick up the phone.

Why did she drown on friday? Wasn't everything already on sea-level by wednesday? Did the water really still rise after the first few days? I thought it just stayed the same.

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