[404]

Hi, I am doing this tutorial here: growing design elements in after effects and it's going ok, but In the tutorial they only use curls which are separate.

The stuff I use has overlapping objects in it, and I don't have a vectorfile with the objects on each layer. So my question: is there a way to reveal objects that are overlapping? I tried using the write-on effect with multiple masks but than in the preview the effect jumps from mask1 keyframe 1 to mask2 keyframe 1 etc.

Also, the effect in the tutorial for revealing is the write-on effect. this effect works well for revealing objects of the same width, but what if the objects has different widths to reveal?

this is an object that has overlapping I am using, but with the technique from the tutorial I can't seem to get it right. are there other ways?:



this next image is an object that has different widths. is there way of revealing the shapes like the write-on effect from the tutorial but than with different brush sizes? (per keyframe?) or maybe with some other effect?:

This post has been edited by 404: 22 August 2007 - 12:16 PM

[Sao_Bento]

You can always do it by erasing a little at a time rather than using write on.
I expect most of the feedback you'll get is going to be questioning why you would even want to do this played out technique anymore.

[404]

Sao_Bento, on Mar 17 2007, 09:09 PM, said:

You can always do it by erasing a little at a time rather than using write on.
I expect most of the feedback you'll get is going to be questioning why you would even want to do this played out technique anymore.

ok..I guess I can answer that because this is the first tutorial I am completing ever(new to AE), so how do I do that? I noticed that the used effect was in another menu (generate>write on in AE7) than in the tutorial I was doing (AE 6.x), so maybe there's the change.

[Sao_Bento]

404, on Mar 17 2007, 05:40 PM, said:

ok..I guess I can answer that because this is the first tutorial I am completing ever(new to AE), so how do I do that? I noticed that the used effect was in another menu (generate>write on in AE7) than in the tutorial I was doing (AE 6.x), so maybe there's the change.

Jayse Hansen did the tutorial that shows erasing in Photoshop. It used to be on the cow, but they lost it now. I'd search for Jayse's stuff.

[Cutty Pastey]

Sao's being really nice -
step back and think about your image and what you are trying to do - bring it into p-shop or illy and break it into layers yourself (this can involves erasing) - then reveal each layer accordingly in AE with write-on or animated mask shapes. A lil prep in photoshop goes a long way.

[404]

Cutty Pastey, on Mar 18 2007, 07:28 AM, said:

Sao's being really nice -
step back and think about your image and what you are trying to do - bring it into p-shop or illy and break it into layers yourself (this can involves erasing) - then reveal each layer accordingly in AE with write-on or animated mask shapes. A lil prep in photoshop goes a long way.

Ok thanks, will do that. it's a pity the illustrator file was merged in one layer so I will break it up again in more layers in photoshop. Maybe like Sao says it's an outdated effect but I am just starting to learn AE so it's not really about the purpose of the effect but more for me to learn howto work with the timeline/keyframes/masking etc.

edit: sorry for creating this topic, I just noticed the other topic about the growing tutorial.

This post has been edited by 404: 18 March 2007 - 01:59 PM

[PMC]

thats weird man, thats the first tutorial i did when i first started ae about 9 months ago. Growing those particular types of element is a lil overdone at this stage but theres still use for that effect. The key is definitly duplicting the layer a coulpe of times and rubbing out all the bits u dont need on each one, the set up is crucial.
I actually dont use the write on for this method anymore, i use a stroke on a solid above and then turn the growing layer into a matt. It means u can turn on continuos rasterization without the mask jumping out of place which is a problem i know a few people have had with this effect.

[jayse]

Just got this sent to me - yeah don't listen to much Sao says - he's pretty much got one answer for everything: 'that's played out'

For mographers that actually DO work instead of just complain about it - it's pretty useful and always will be. ;-)


So - C-P and PMC are correct - it's just a bit of prep work to separate them. That's one reason i mirror and duplicate it - looks like you've done a lot more than you really have.



// jayse

[jaan]

jayse, on Apr 9 2007, 04:22 PM, said:

Just got this sent to me - yeah don't listen to much Sao says - he's pretty much got one answer for everything: 'that's played out'

For mographers that actually DO work instead of just complain about it - it's pretty useful and always will be. ;-)
So - C-P and PMC are correct - it's just a bit of prep work to separate them. That's one reason i mirror and duplicate it - looks like you've done a lot more than you really have.
// jayse

but you have to admit, it is hella hellza hecka played out.

[jayse]

jaan, on Apr 9 2007, 04:36 PM, said:

but you have to admit, it is hella hellza hecka played out.

Hellz Yeah it is! I never reveal my secrets until they're played out. I just like to give Sao a hard time. ;-)

This post has been edited by jayse: 10 April 2007 - 02:01 AM

[tomcat]

One way or another, you have to separate your elements. It is a *%#@ tedious process.
Rather than peaking, growth seems to be evolving into a staple, and I am afraid that it will be with us for the remainder of the continuum.

[govinda]

The one time I did this, circa 2005, it worked best to use the fill artwork as a matte, and have another layer below with a single line mask with the stroke effect. Where they overlap, well, it's extra work. You need to plan out the precomps. So in other words PMC and I did it the same way, except I'm saying below and he's saying above.

[Patdc]

Hi, I did something like this back in '04,
Example
I used the same kind of method as the guys said before.
It involved breaking the shapes up in illustrator and also drawing a path on a solid above each layer in after effects. Then adding 3d stroke to the path layer which was used as an alpha (setting different thicknesses to match the different widths). When things overlap you need to break it all up into seperate sections so one 'flourish' might be broken up into three sections.
Hope that helps.

This post has been edited by Patdc: 14 May 2007 - 06:34 AM

[aras.]

Very nicely done. I love the first part when the 'Untitled' text slowly appearing

[mariohyeah]

sometimes I use Gradient Wipe with the image graded in photoshop, a gradient for each leaf or symbol, from white to black or grey to gre

[Patdc]

aras., on May 14 2007, 06:33 PM, said:

Very nicely done. I love the first part when the 'Untitled' text slowly appearing

Thanks Aras.