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Mac Pro Video Cards Open GL compatability w/ AE

#1 User is offline   Cutty Pastey Icon

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 06:35 PM

Old Dual G5 just won't cut it anymore for me - getting a new mac pro.

This is the list of supported open GL cards for AE CS3
http://www.adobe.com...cts/opengl.html

these are the video cards offered w/ the mac pro

# ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB <--- no???
# NVIDIA Quadro FX 5600 1.5GB <--- no
# NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB <---- what about this guy? - not on list

What are you guys using and are you getting any Open GL benefits from it?
What would you recommend?
thanks!
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 07:12 PM

I heard very good things about the 8800 with AE.
The 2600 has shown poor benchmarks, but it should still show all AE OpenGL features as supported.. The Quadro is overkill for AE, I think.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 08:02 PM

8800 all the way. Best video card I have ever owned. It handles AE like nothing and is beautiful with MAYA and C4d.
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 08:15 PM

MacPro and the 8800, but while it seems to work fine in AE7/8, I actually have the OpenGL option turned off most of the time.
There are some (maybe general) hicups when flying around 3D layers. The OGL gets filled and bail out especially when "looking up
in the sky".
Generally fine in Cinema as well, and the same here, I turn OGL on and off depending on the scene (checking shadows and such) but
no OGL crashes. Certain texture projections only looks correct with OGL on, others need to have it turned off.

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 10:43 PM

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB

Question #1.........Comaptible with older G5?
Question #2.........Can you self install, without a major headache?
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Posted 03 June 2008 - 10:56 PM

#1. These are PCI-express cards and the only G5 that have that is the Quad. But I doubt it will work anyway (drivers and such).
That said I haven't actually checked it.
(Graphic cards on mac is and has always been a mystery to me, so far I haven't seen any real gain in a "better" card, for Cinema
at least.)
#2. Swapping cards is normally not hard but the later Macs (G5 and up) haven't the best locking mechanism...(A plate keeping all cards
in place, sort of)

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 04:36 AM

Great post! Just looking at the apple store to get a pro desktop, and was curious if I should go for the 8800...guess this post means YES hehe
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Posted 04 June 2008 - 02:33 PM

NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB + 1



Altho the OGL performence is quite low right now ( on the level of the xt 1900 ), this may ( or not ) be resolved in a later os x grafics driver update.

C4d ( v10.5 / Osx 10.5.2) crashes on many new Mac Pros when doing a OGL preview, you'll have to use software rendering instead.


Enjoy your new box.

Edit, some benchmarks:

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I offered a GF 8800 GT to my Mac Pro Rev1
I received it yesterday, and immediately ran some comparison test with the Radeon X1900 XT

Couple of Benchmarks first:

- XBench:
The GF 8800 GT and the X1900 XT obtain similar result, despite the OpenGL performance, higher for the ATI/AMD GPU (might be directly linked to drivers)

GeForce 8800 GT
Results 220.73
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.2 (9C7010)
Physical RAM 6144 MB
Model MacPro1,1
Drive Type WDC WD2500JS-41SGB0
Quartz Graphics Test 207.17
Line 184.65 12.29 Klines/sec [50% alpha]Rectangle 255.95 76.42 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 206.52 16.83 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 203.21 5.13 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 198.04 12.39 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 161.59
Spinning Squares 161.59 204.99 frames/sec
User Interface Test 388.25
Elements 388.25 1.78 Krefresh/sec

X1900XT
Results 246.66
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.5.2 (9C7010)
Physical RAM 6144 MB
Model MacPro1,1
Drive Type WDC WD2500JS-41SGB0
Quartz Graphics Test 208.27
Line 185.96 12.38 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 253.47 75.67 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 206.24 16.81 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 204.91 5.17 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 201.77 12.62 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 220.13
Spinning Squares 220.13 279.25 frames/sec
User Interface Test 354.83
Elements 354.83 1.63 Krefresh/sec

- CineBench
X1900XT 5212
8800GT 5016
Here too, the Radeon seems to be better for OpenGL rendering. This could confirm some reports found on the web, the GF 8800 GT would be a gamer-dedicated GPU while the Radeon X1900 XT would better fit for application-based graphical rendering.

http://www.hardmac.c...008-04-28/#8183

This post has been edited by shinjin: 04 June 2008 - 02:44 PM

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